460 Engine Swap - advice needed
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460 Engine Swap - advice needed
I am planning to put a 460 / C6 into my 1970 F100 LWB truck. Truck had a 302 with a C4 tranny. Looking for details on the things I need to know to try and avoid "surprises". Here are a few questions....
1. I know I need engine mounts from dentside or buy aftermarket. Do either bolt into existing holes in cross-member?
2. Any clearance issue with power brake booster?
3. Any clearance issue with headers and inner fenders, steering box, or?
4. Cab tunnel cover. Mine is flat. Do I need a raised cover for the tranny?
5. What, if anything, will I need to do to the driveshaft? Shorten?
6. Is it true to get the tranny out you need to pull the engine?
7. Any detailed write-ups for this swap I could get a link for?
Answers to these questions and any other advice would be extremely appreciated!
1. I know I need engine mounts from dentside or buy aftermarket. Do either bolt into existing holes in cross-member?
2. Any clearance issue with power brake booster?
3. Any clearance issue with headers and inner fenders, steering box, or?
4. Cab tunnel cover. Mine is flat. Do I need a raised cover for the tranny?
5. What, if anything, will I need to do to the driveshaft? Shorten?
6. Is it true to get the tranny out you need to pull the engine?
7. Any detailed write-ups for this swap I could get a link for?
Answers to these questions and any other advice would be extremely appreciated!
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
Dentside motor mounts if you can, booster probably won't allow you to remove valve cover. That's why cantilever booster moved it up. Steering box needs to be saginaw, headers are tight there. Cut rivets out of crossmember between radius arms so you can drop trans. Bolt in high tunnel needed.
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
1. Trans Dapt 9720 mounts. Most of the holes were already there.
2. No power brakes.
3. Headman 89140. One small ding on the right side at the lower rail. Pipes above both cross members. Manual steering.
4. Flat hump is fine. No rib C6 fits with room to spare.
5. Local shop cut the driveshaft. The C6/1310 yoke came out of a 73 two door Lincoln. Summit has them for a hundred or so.
6. They can be removed separately or together
7. pics on request.
8. 460 F100: more fun than the law allows. 3820 at the scales.
2. No power brakes.
3. Headman 89140. One small ding on the right side at the lower rail. Pipes above both cross members. Manual steering.
4. Flat hump is fine. No rib C6 fits with room to spare.
5. Local shop cut the driveshaft. The C6/1310 yoke came out of a 73 two door Lincoln. Summit has them for a hundred or so.
6. They can be removed separately or together
7. pics on request.
8. 460 F100: more fun than the law allows. 3820 at the scales.
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
70shortbox wrote:1. Trans Dapt 9720 mounts. Most of the holes were already there.
2. No power brakes.
3. Headman 89140. One small ding on the right side at the upper rail. Pipes above both cross members. Manual steering.
4. Flat hump is fine. No rib C6 fits with room to spare.
5. Local shop cut the driveshaft. The C6/1310 yoke came out of a 73 two door Lincoln. Summit has them for a hundred or so.
6. They can be removed separately or together
7. pics on request.
8. 460 F100: more fun than the law allows. 3820 at the scales.
Thanks for the info. I would love to see a few pics if that's not too much trouble.
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
Some pics
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
I added a power source and put in the MSD along with a A/F meter.
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
I just put together this 4781-2 850. I'll put it on there this weekend and see how it runs.
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
Nice job on the crossover pipe/"H" pipe in the dual exhaust."70shortbox"Some more
So...many folks don't realize how important it is!
Can you keep tires on it LOL?!
Jeff
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
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Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
I have true duels on my 71 F100 long bed with a 460/c6 ps. pb auto, headers and 4v. I don't have a cross over pipe. Are they THAT important? AM I leaving that much power on the table?
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460 C6. Disc Brake/Power-steering/automatic Swap. 3.00
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
I think the power difference is minimal. It does seem to smooth out the sound a little.
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Re: 460 Engine Swap - advice needed
Design [b[THEORY[b/] of a crossover pipe does so much more than that...="cdeal28078"I have true duels on my 71 F100 long bed with a 460/c6 ps. pb auto, headers and 4v. I don't have a cross over pipe. Are they THAT important? AM I leaving that much power on the table?
It is suppose to equalize the pressures between all 8 cylinders, (or 6 if you had a V-6) across the cylinder banks from each side for more HP.
Jeff
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4