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Oh..
Sorry its just im not familiar with this "rust" of which you speak. California and all lol
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R.Smith wrote:Now, find a good recipe for cutting fluid and my quest will be complete.

I actually have some old machinists books circa 1900 that have several recipes for cutting fluid that can also be used as first aide for burns ect. I'd make those but I can't get my hands on any whale oil!
Cutting fluids....it depends on what type of material and type of tool.In my 30 years of machining I have used water all types of oils in various combination's off the shelf cutting/tapping fluids straight molybdenum ie: high end cam lube, even chlorinated brakekleen that was required to cut vacuum cast/formed molybdenum.For most low/med carbon steels high sulfur cutting oil is fine,aluminum likes WD-40 or kerosene,cast iron cuts well with water with enough soluble oil to keep it from rust.That is for milling,turning,sawing.Tapping is safest with one of the commercial tapping fluids.There are many variables the old books are invaluable '40s/'50s are most useful today :thup: The "machinery's hand book" is cool you dont need a new one any one printed after the early '60s will do.
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here is 1 more I thought of "go-jo original " is good for tapping cast iron,better than the commercial fluids
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Acetone/ATF, 50/50 - Its one of the best tips I ever got. NOTHING ever worked for me, PB Blaster etc., but this does, thanks alot Bobbyford. :fr:

I grabbed what I had...Miracle Oil/Lacquer thinner 50/50. Oh yeah! :D
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Kroil is all I have ever used and love it.
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Kroil works wonders in the shop, but i still carrry a can of PB in the wrecking ward box...

Jury's still out on the ATF/Acetone. I had a baseplate soaking in it that refused to budge. Tyring to come up with some sort of an airtite container so the acetone doesn't evaporate so damn quickly
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Alright what is Acetone? Where do you buy it?
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The Good Humor Man wrote:Alright what is Acetone? Where do you buy it?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone

Available at any hardware or home improvement store.
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I dimantled the entire 1970 F100 and nearly all of the 1971 donor using PB blaster for the rusted nuts. Would spray it on every night for 2-3 days prior to trying to break loose the nuts. Worked very well for me. And be assured there were plenty of rusted nuts!! :2cents:
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A small spring bottom oiler is your friend when using the 50/50 ATF/Acetone mix. I mix about 1/2 oz of each into the can and have at it. The problem with acetone is it's flamable and evaporates very quickly. Best to mix as you need it.

http://www.dutton-lainson.com/products.php?cat=55 as an example of the oiler.
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fitzwell wrote:
>snip<. Tyring to come up with some sort of an airtite container so the acetone doesn't evaporate so damn quickly
First thing that came to mind. was an oldschool charcoal lighter fluid squeeze can...maybe that'll work...
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Years ago an older gentleman that owned a junkyard,
said he used equal amounts of atf,brake fluid,kerosene.
It does word pretty good.
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foghorn wrote:A little antiseiz works wonders on lug nuts i have used it on mine for years with excellent results. But i also have a good impact to tighten with its the highest tourque one that snap-on sells


:2cents: must stay pretty dry around there(or you've got some good hubcaps) - after breaking 2 lugs per wheel off during a ("simple" )tire rotation i will never use anti-sieze on lugs again ,after a winter here anti -sieze turns into a concrete mixture anywhere its been exposed to the elements and clogs the threads up worse than rust does

ATF works great as a penentrating fluid,but the best one i've found so far is Fluid Film ,its made of wool wax & it smells like ass ,but i've had pretty good results with it, i've even managed to free up a 3/4 drive ratchet i salvaged from the local marina with it ..plus it works pretty good as an undercoat
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R.Smith wrote:Now, find a good recipe for cutting fluid and my quest will be complete.

I actually have some old machinists books circa 1900 that have several recipes for cutting fluid that can also be used as first aide for burns ect. I'd make those but I can't get my hands on any whale oil!
Smitty, got any friends in Japan?
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R.Smith wrote:Now, find a good recipe for cutting fluid and my quest will be complete.

I actually have some old machinists books circa 1900 that have several recipes for cutting fluid that can also be used as first aide for burns ect. I'd make those but I can't get my hands on any whale oil!
Do you know anyone in Japan? they should be able to help you with whale oel.........Donnie
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